Monday, August 15, 2005

We Interrupt Your Regularly Scheduled Blog for This Important Announcement

With the disengagement today, there is a possibility, Rachmana litzlan, of Jews pointing guns at other Jews.

I think it's important that everyone, regardless of your position, take a moment today and over the next few days to say one chapter of Psalms to beg the Good L-rd not to allow any bloodshed.


Blogger callieischatty said...

I agree but no way do I think its gonna come to that.

No way.

Now a favor, will you go and talk to to this person who is on a university 'palestine encouter'?

You have a way with words, go and say something ok?

Mon Aug 15, 03:04:00 PM  
Blogger Elster said...

See my most recent post. I could not agree more.

Mon Aug 15, 03:13:00 PM  
Blogger TRW said...

So far, B"H, all I'm seeing are pictures like those on Jack's Shack and what I've posted on my own blog. Pictures of love. And that's all I want to see.

Mon Aug 15, 04:05:00 PM  
Blogger MC Aryeh said...

I don't even want to imagine bloodshed as a possibility. The pictures of soldiers crying with settlers is exactly what should be, if this withdrawal must happen...

Mon Aug 15, 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger fsgsf said...

Yes, let us pray for real!!! Please see my post on this topic too.


NJ from NJ

Tue Aug 16, 09:27:00 AM  
Blogger BarbaraFromCalifornia said...


Consider it done.

May it be God's will.

Tue Aug 16, 06:32:00 PM  
Blogger Eli7 said...

Prayer is pretty much all we've got at the moemnt - prayer and hope. Let's hope and pray that whatever happens, nobody gets hurt physically (I don't think we're gonna be able to prevent emotional pain, although even the physical seems doubtful at the moment).

Tue Aug 16, 09:39:00 PM  
Blogger The Rabbi's Kid said...


We can pray, but we can also speak out against Jews using their personal weapons against soldiers carrying out their governemnt's orders. If you participate in a secular democratic process then ultimately you accept the authority of that process.


Wed Aug 17, 02:16:00 AM  
Blogger bleemy's blemishes said...

I , too, will pray today for the Jewish settlers in Israel!


Wed Aug 17, 02:48:00 PM  
Blogger Assorted Babble by Suzie said...

I have been constantly praying for the Jewish settlers and for Israel. My heart breaks for what I am watching in front of my eyes. God is watching and listening that we all know for sure.

Thu Aug 18, 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's look at this thought of yours that many seem to empathies with. "Let's say a psalm", you say, that Jew doesn't take up arms against another Jew" (or s/thing like that) Well... I'm sure you're a nice fella, and presumably learnt in yeshiva, but it's a basic understanding that it is inappropriate, and moreover, of no consequence with G-d to PRAY for another’s actions. You don’t close your eyes and say “Oh God I hope David keeps shabbos" or "oh please make him keep kosher" etc... A Jew in the know of his faith knows that you can’t pray that a Jew should or shouldn’t do a certain action, -i.e. shoot at one another.- That’s the part that G-d has left entirely to us… our actions, our actions… our actions…
However that being said, your feelings do you credit sir, at least you give a damn.
Now, THAT all being said I say this: here's the thing, if you delve on the feeling going on inside you, you will eventually find that the motivation "to pray" is at least in large part an expression of your guilt feeling to be doing something instead of just watching it on TV, and saying "tsk tsk." In addition, you don't want to feel helpless, powerless, useless, and basically irrelavant in the equation, so... you say "I know... I'm gonna PRAY! Then I've done something I made a difference" ha-ha - yeah uh huh. In the haftorah just proceeding Tisha b'av (how perfectly appropriate and timely) G-d says "Leave me alone with your so called sacrifices and empty prayers that's not what I want." He then clearly spells out what it is that he does want. If u wanna know just look it up, but I'll give you a hint: it's not more prayers and sanctimonious offerings. Btw- if we would all care enough as you say that you did on Tisha b’av, than and then, we would put our duffel bag over our shoulder and join in the strruge. Can you imagin what a consolidated mass of 18mill Jewish minds might be able to create. NOW THERE’S YOUR TISHA B’AV.

Thu Aug 18, 12:44:00 PM  
Blogger ClooJew said...

Two things I've noticed about anonymous comments: they tend to be the most incendiary, and they tend to have the poorest spelling and grammar.

To the point: One needs to read carefully. What I said was we should pray for G-d to prevent bloodshed. That is entirely G-d's jurisdiction, despite the choices people make.

More important, you are entirely dismissive of the power of prayer, which is sad. G-d doesn't want, as you quote, "empty prayers"; it's sincerity He's looking for. And yes, beyond praying, I do fell useless and irrelevant. But the power of prayer is immeasurable, dwarfing almost any other religious expression.

Thu Aug 18, 01:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hahaha- I'm sorry for laughing but how do you figure for “G-d to prevent bloodshed despite the choices 'people' make" - which of course in this case means shooting bullets at each other- by making bullet-holes not bleed perhaps? Sure he could do that too if he/she wanted but I trust that's not what you were thinking. Hence I return unscathed from my point. There's nothing left to pray for in this latest chapter of Galous. He's heaped blessings on us- from here on in, it's all on us. You might wanna think about that for a second. It made me shiver- I mean that truthfully amd literally- when i just wrote it, 'cause I belive it.
NOW: THAT all being said I say THIS: We do believe that there is one and only one fine strain of mankind who's decisions are not his own and are governed in their entirety by G-d and that is the decision makers themselves i.e. Sharon and his fellow villains. So THAT we could pray for that G-d enlightens their minds and leads there actions and decisions in a way that will prevent bloodshed. But you know you might wanna sit for this.. we are told repeatedly that bloodshed in G-ds eyes is NOT the worst possible reality. Spitting in his face is. (see; the 'toe-che-chah') I challenge you to name a country that has spit more in the face of God then the country -not the people- of Israel As your trying to think keep in mind that an enemy’s spit does not sting at all compared to your spouses.

Thu Aug 18, 01:43:00 PM  
Blogger cyrano said...

I think that what anonymous is trying to say (albeit very dramatically) is that prayer is all well and good, but at some point we must do something proactive to help our brethren and not leave them to bear the total burden of defending and sacrificing for a country which is the safe haven for jews all over the world.

Thu Aug 18, 04:20:00 PM  
Blogger Ittay said...

How do all those who prayed so fervently for the disengagement not to proceed feel today? Why is it that God says YES to some prayers and NO to others. Today I will be praying that next weeks evacuations from Sa Nur and Homesh are conducted peacefully.

Sat Aug 20, 09:21:00 PM  
Blogger Jameel @ The Muqata said...

CJ: As someone who has personally spent the last days in Chomesh -- you're comment is based on the terrible lies and hatred being spread by Sharon & Company. Yes, there will definitly be a "battle" over Chomesh and Sa-Nur, yet guns will not be used (well, at not from the settler side). Sa-Nur has already returned all its IDF issued weapons, and today, returned all civilian licensed weapons. This was all done volunetarily, to prove that there will not be any gun-related violence from the settler side.

I will not be at Chomesh tomorrow, but in Neve Dekalim, trying to help a family pack their stuff up. It took 40 soldiers to drag them out of their home. Yet once that was over, and now they have permission to return and pack, the IDF refuses to be of any help. Worse, they are inflicting a hell on people which is based solely on evil and revenge. I'll hopefully write about this tomorrow.

An article in HaAretz summed it up last week - not only does Israel want to destroy "Gush Katif shel Matah", but they are just as intent on destroying "Gush Katif shel Maala" -- which is why you hear all sorts of baloney stories in the news about "acid from rooftoops" and "weapons being aimed from settlers at the IDF".

Good Night. I must be in Ashkelon by 8:00 AM.

Sun Aug 21, 04:21:00 PM  
Blogger Nemo said...

Jew's are not violent people. The Gemara says that one of the identifying traits of a Jewish person is his mercifulness on his fellow. The greatest display of this truth was in the few weeks.

Troughout the duration of the entire process, not a single Jew raised a gun towards another Jew. Resistance was minimal and a display of protest at best. What the media described as "violence between settlers and forces," was no more than pushing and wrestling in defiance. As far as Kfar Darom- well, it is less than I would expect from your typical country getting expelled by its own. Let's not forget that the settler's had enough fire power for a small battle.

From someone who's been taking part in higway blockeade protest all year, the resistance shown, and the lack of chaos throughout came as a bit of a let down to me. But in retrospect, I'm glad to be reassured of my faith in Jewish peace.

Wed Aug 31, 01:21:00 AM  

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